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ScorpioProX
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 Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 3:05 pm Post subject: Athlon 64 FX-60 somthing to think about |
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The Athlon 64 FX-60 not only is the most expensive AMD desktop processor, but its life span will be short. AMD is getting ready to release the new Socket M2 processor platform in the first half of this year. Also, AMD is about to shift from a 90 to 65 nm process, which will result in the output of new, faster processors very soon- whether this happens in sync with the platform change or not remains to be seen. The socket 939 FX-60 could thus become obsolete over night, which should make you think twice before spending $1,000.
so be aware when yo buy new hardware... |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 3:13 pm Post subject: Re: Athlon 64 FX-60 somthing to think about |
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Yep, was reading the same. So this means you can only buy Intel chips for now lol. Anyway, the Intel chips seem to perfom better now anyway and I'm used to Intel anyway  |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 3:41 pm Post subject: Re: Athlon 64 FX-60 somthing to think about |
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| ScorpioProX wrote (View Post): | | before spending $1,000... |
1000$ ???  I never thought about to buy a 1000$ CPU - every new comp I assambled didn't cost more than 1000 EUR and they're running fine. |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:50 pm Post subject: Re: Athlon 64 FX-60 somthing to think about |
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well i was planing on buying the fx 60 myself...but now...i'm not so sure, maybe i can wait for the Socket M2 65 nm anyway so that would be cool  |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:42 pm Post subject: Re: Athlon 64 FX-60 somthing to think about |
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If possible I would avoid buying the Athlon 64 FX-60. It's the only CPU which uses the 939 socket so if you plan on buying a new CPU later on, you also have to replace the mainboard and eventually your RAM etc... The Athlon 64 FX-62 will use the new socket called AM2 and I guess that this socket will last longer. There are already 2 CPU's announced for the new socket so that looks much better. That CPU/socket should be launched the 6th of June.
I've read quite a few articles about CPU's now. Also the Intel ones of course and it looks like that AMD is better now in performance. Though during the second quarter of this year, Intel will launch a new series of CPU with a lot of improvements and innovations and I think that those CPU's will be better than the AMD ones as far as I have read about it. Well, we have to see. Intel will launch the CPU called "Conroe" with 65nm technology, dual core with 64 bit support, a lot better power management and less noisy, higher FSB and some more features.
It sucks to wait that long for getting a new PC system but I think it's worth waiting for it. There will be a big perfomance boost in the next quarter regarding performance/power which we haven't had during the last years really so that's why I think it's worth waiting. Though, I don't want to wait that long to get me a new PC  Dunno what to do  |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 3:50 pm Post subject: Re: Athlon 64 FX-60 somthing to think about |
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About the expensive price FMC, well you have to count it like 2 x 500 since you will have 2 CPU's
I might go for the Intel chip as it's cheaper and looks much better, at least to me:
Intel P-DUAL 950 (3.4 GHz) -> 3.4 GHz max.:
- Dual Core (2 x 3.4 GHz)
- 2 x 2MB Cache/Core
- New 65nm architecture (will be the future, AMD will switch next year somewhere probably)
- FSB 800 MHz
- 64bit support
- € 640
AMD 64 FX-60 (2.6 GHz) -> 2.6 GHz max.:
- Dual Core (2 x 2.6 GHz)
- 2 x 1MB Cache/Core
- Old 90nm architecture
- FSB 400 MHz
- 64bit support
- € 820
Well, if I compare those key features, I would know what to go for lol. Though, I just read that the AMD performes still better and that's due a problem which Intel suffers from. It's due the so called NetBurst architecture they use. I don't know much about why it's a problem but the performance test shows what is better. So I'm got the same dilemma again. What to go for |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:53 pm Post subject: Re: Athlon 64 FX-60 somthing to think about |
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| lol well I would still go for the AMD, the cache on the cpu is better managed...the Intel one have to use the front size buss every time when its want to excess the cache, what makes it slower. Or was it the way the handled RAM |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:17 pm Post subject: Re: Athlon 64 FX-60 somthing to think about |
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| Well, if you have read my last part, I also more tend to go for the AMD but still it sucks IMO because soon it will be obsolete |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 7:34 pm Post subject: Re: Athlon 64 FX-60 somthing to think about |
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awww yea sorry man i was so bussy i did not have time to poste really or read for that matter, dont tell my boss that i did 
yea i face the same problem...still thinking bout what I should buy...but acording to what i posted "AMD is getting ready to release the new Socket M2 processor platform in the first half of this year" they should be able to meat my death line
well i hope... |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:10 pm Post subject: Re: Athlon 64 FX-60 somthing to think about |
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| Anyone has seen a motherboard which supports DDR2 RAM, CrossFire (for 2 ATi graphics card) and AMD processor? Not sure but it looks like that you cannot use DDR2 RAM's with an AMD processor? |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:53 pm Post subject: Re: Athlon 64 FX-60 somthing to think about |
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| The can deal with DDR2 and AMD Socket 939 (which is not only used by the FX-60 btw, don't know where you got that information from). I plan on buying that in the near future, along with an AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+. |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:27 am Post subject: Re: Athlon 64 FX-60 somthing to think about |
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Who said that you only can use FX chips with a 939 socket? I know that you can use older models such as the X2 chips as well. Well SLI doesn't support CrossFire  So this is not an option for me. |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:31 am Post subject: Re: Athlon 64 FX-60 somthing to think about |
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| lomb you really wanna go for a ATI board? Cause i'm thinking of going with nvidia |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:41 am Post subject: Re: Athlon 64 FX-60 somthing to think about |
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| Yeah, I think it's better because you have the freedom of connecting almost every CrossFire supported graphics card together whereas with SLI you need to have the exact same graphics card which really sucks IMO. Also the CrossFire systems seems to be way more flexible and performs better as far as I could see. Though, the ATi chipset is new so I'm not sure if it's really good. I know that nForce chipsets are a bit better but the ATi graphics card are better and cheaper |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: Athlon 64 FX-60 somthing to think about |
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well CrossFire is better then SLI as far as i know.
But its waht you said the chip you need to pull off crossfire is not that good, also in the nedelands i dont see much crossfire...if any at all...
And with crossfire you need a master card and a secundairy crossfire card...
dont know how flexible that is and you well be stuck 2 the slowest vid card i think... |
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